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- From: Robert Scott <Robert.Scott@ncl.ac.uk>
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Hallucinogenic fish
- Date: 8 Nov 1994 13:28:19 GMT
- Message-ID: <39nudj$s9j@whitbeck.ncl.ac.uk>
-
- kkalnins@malibu.sfu.ca (Karlis Kalnins) wrote:
-
- >I heard on the radio last night about a trend with some students
- >at some university (What a unique way to set up a 'strange new
- >drug' story in the media) were swalowing live tropical fish of some
- >variety, and the fish would release a drug when in the stomach that
- >was a hallucinogen. Anyone heard about this? More info?
- >On the radio, they said (the guy was reading a newspaper article) the
- >'kids were turning their brains to cobwebs' and how horrible that this
- >was because the fish were not illegal. Please help us, oh mighty
- >State! We can't tell what to put in out own bodies unless you outlaw
- >what you think is bad!
- >Anyways, anyone got any more info? Post.
-
- O.K. from a book "The Hallucinogens" - Hoffer & Osmond
-
- 'Even a variety of fish produces hallucinations. Roughly (1960)
- described the dream fish present near Norfolk island. The inhabitants
- stated consuming this fish would produce nightmares. In order to test
- this claim, Joe Roberts, National Geographic photographer, consumed
- some of the fish, broiled. The next morning he reported "It was pure
- science fiction." He saw a new kind of car, pictures of monuments to
- mark man's first trip into space. The fish is Kyphosus fuscus,
- closely related to the silver drummer caught off New South Wales.
- The author, Roughly, also tried the fish and had weird dreams.'
-
- Rob.
-
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-
- From: jdkirkla@prairienet.org (Justin D. Kirkland)
- Newsgroups: alt.psychoactives
- Subject: Psychoactive Fish etc..
- Date: 2 Dec 1994 02:02:38 GMT
- Message-ID: <3blv7u$lnj@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>
-
- JLF is currently looking for Dreamfish of HI or the Norfolk
- Islands. The latin name is Kyphosus fuscus. It was discussed
- in Natl Geograhphic in 1960 pg 556. Any information and
- specimens would be greatly appreciated and rewarded. Also of
- current interest is the Pufferfish aka- Blowfish, Boxfish
- Porcipinefish, Globefish, Trunkfish, and Fugu. Also specimens
- and information on certain Hawaiin centipedes, AZ scorpians,
- various spiders, stingrays and middle eastern ants.
- JLF can be reached at JLF, P.O. Box 184-jk, Elizabethtown, IN
- 47232 USA or the above email address or 1-812-379-2508.
- As always, anyone with any new information or specimens of
- any form of psychoactive life, JLF may be interested in buying
- or trading or may already carry them.
- --
-
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-
- From: sknight@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Sam Knight)
- Newsgroups: alt.drugs
- Subject: Re: fish hallucinogens
- Date: 9 Nov 1994 10:13:18 GMT
- Message-ID: <39q7bu$fb7@styx.uwa.edu.au>
-
- Guru Gnosis Sahib (gnosis@brahman.nullnet.fi) wrote:
- : Karlis Kalnins (kkalnins@malibu.sfu.ca) wrote:
- : : I heard on the radio last night about a trend with some students
- : : at some university (What a unique way to set up a 'strange new
- : : drug' story in the media) were swalowing live tropical fish of some
- : : variety, and the fish would release a drug when in the stomach that
- : : was a hallucinogen. Anyone heard about this? More info?
-
- : Yup, a file I happen to have (in Finnish, I'm afraid) has the following
- : list of psychotropic fish:
- : Abudefduf septemfasciatus (Sergeant major) Pacific Ocean, Africa
- : Epinephelus corallicola (Grouper) Pacific Ocean
- : Kyphosus cinerascens (Bluefish) Indonesia
- : Kyphosus vaigiensis (Brass bream) Indonesia
- : Mugil cephalus (Flathead mullet) The tropics
- : Mulloidichtys samoensis (Golden goatfish) Indonesia
- : Neomyxus chaptali (Mullet) Indonesia
- : Saganus oramin (Rabbitfish) Indonesia, West Africa
- : Upeneus arge (Goatfish) Indonesia
-
- : (Halstead, Courville: Poisonous and Venomous Marine Animals of the World,
- : Vol 2, U.S.Government Printing Office 1967)
-
- : Other than that, it just states that "nobody is known to have died from
- : consumption". No mention of what the active ingredient is or anything.
- : I'd venture a guess at either a DMT relative or bufotenin relative,
- : which crop up in the venoms of other animals.
-
-
- : -- _ __
- : Jani "Guru Gnosis Sahib" Poij{rvi On the neverending quest /(o\ BRAHMAN
- : gnosis@brahman.nullnet.fi for knowledge by identity. \o)/ +3580498797
-
- Someone should do an analysis :)
- There is also an hallucinogenic catipiller, or so says "chemistry in the
- market place" (cant remember the author just now). Unfortunately he doesnt
- provide a reference.
-
- Sam
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